- Keep in mind when reading this, that the man being
interviewed is no two-bit internet conspiracy buff.
- Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole
(R) and has personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This
courageous man has risked his professional reputation, and possibly his
life, to get this information out to people.
- The following is from his latest visit to Alex Jones'
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- Note: All honor to Stanley Hilton for risking his life
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- The Bush Junta Unmasked
- "This (9/11) was all planned. This was a
government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He
personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass
murder." --Stanley Hilton
- Alex Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for
911 taxpayers' lawsuit
- Alex Jones Radio Show September 10, 2004 Transcription
- AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's chief
of staff, very successful counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of
the victims families of 9/11. He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11.
Now a major Zogby poll out - half of New Yorkers think the government
was involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into the
next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great to have you on with
- SH: Glad to be on.
- AJ: We'll have to recap this when we start the next
hour, but just in a nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you've deposed a
lot of military officers. You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a
nutshell, what is your case alleging?
- SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets
Rice and Cheney and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all
involved not only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but
in actually ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen.
We have some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses, that
Bush personally ordered this event to happen in order to gain political
advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of the neocons
and their deluded thinking in the Middle East. I also wanted to point
out that, just quickly, I went to school with some of these neocons. At
the University of Chicago, in the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and
several of the others and so I know these people personally. And we used
to talk about this stuff all of the time. And I did my senior thesis on
this very subject - how to turn the U.S. into a presidential
dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus Pearl Harbor event. So,
technically this has been in the planning at least 35 years.
- AJ: That's right. They were all Straussian followers
of a Nazi-like professor. And now they are setting it up here in
America. Stanley, I know you deposed a lot of people and you've got your
$7 million dollar lawsuit with hundreds of the victim's families
- SH: 7 billion, 7 billion
- AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new
and incriminating evidence you've got of them ordering the
- SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers'
class action lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of the families and the
basic three arguments are they violated the Constitution by ordering
this event. And secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims
Act, Title 31 of the U.S. Code in which Bush presented false and
fraudulent evidence to Congress to get the Iraq war authorization. And,
of course, he related it to 9/11 and claimed that Saddam was involved
with that, and all these lies.
- AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, we've got to
break. Let's come back and get into the evidence. BREAK
- AJ: All right my friends, second hour, September 10th,
2004, the anniversary of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. It's
an amazing individual we have on the line. Bob Dole's former chief of
staff, political scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld
and others, he wrote his thesis about how to turn America into a
dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor attack. He's suing the U.S.
government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds of the victims'
families signing onto it - it's a $7 billion lawsuit. And he is Stanley
Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just joined us in Los Angeles and
Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida and all over. Please sir, recap
what you were just stating and then let's get into the new evidence. And
then we'll get into why you are being harassed by the FBI, as other FBI
people are being harassed who have been blowing the whistle on this. So,
this is really getting serious. Stanley, tell us all about it.
- SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney,
Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing
9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had
a witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S.
undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA
to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. Their
landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this
was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by George W.
Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating evidence, documents as
well as witnesses, to this effect. It's not just incompetence - in spite
of the fact that he is incompetent. The fact is he personally ordered
this, knew about it. He, at one point, there were rehearsals of this.
The reason why he appeared to be uninterested and nonchalant on
September 11th - when those videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in
his ear the [garbled] words about this he listened to kids reading the
pet goat story, is that he thought this was another rehearsal. These
people had dress-rehearsed this many times. He had seen simulated videos
of this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip a few months later at a
California press conference when he said he had, quote, "seen on
television the first plane attack the first tower." And that could not
be possible because there was no video. What it was was the simulated
video that he had gone over. So this was a personally government-ordered
thing. We are suing them under the Constitution for violating Americans'
rights, as well as under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for
presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq
boondoggle war, for political gains. And also, under the RICO statute,
under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being a corrupt
entity. And I've been harassed personally by the chief judge of the
federal court who is instructing me personally to drop this suit,
threatened to kick me off the court, after 30 years on the court. I've
been harassed by the FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My
office has been broken into and this is the kind of government we are
- AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out - five separate
drills of flying hijacked jets into buildings that morning - which you
told us about before it even broke in the Associated Press. They were
trying to get out ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed
military people who were told it was a drill that morning. Then to get
out ahead of that, the news finally reported on it. Now, we've learned
that all these operations - I want to get into that, I want to talk
about the new incriminating evidence of ordering it and how they had
drilled on this, how Cheney was in the bunker controlling this. That has
even come out in the mainstream news but they won't release the details
of that, Stanley. But what type of FBI harassment are you going through?
SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in San Francisco several
months ago. Files were gone through and some files were seized -
particularly the ones dealing with the lady that was married to one of
the hijackers. Fortunately, I had spare copies in a hidden place so
nothing disappeared permanently. But more significantly, FBI agents have
been harassing one of my staff members and threatening them with vague
but frightening threats of indicting them. And it's just total
harassment. They have planted a spy, an undercover agent, in my
organization, as we just recently discovered. In other words, these are
Nazi Germany tactics. This is the kind of government you have in this
country. This is what Bush is all about.
- AJ: Stay there, Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief of
staff. We'll come back after this quick break. Please stay with us.
- AJ: All right, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the
second hour. Stanley Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's
former chief of staff, is suing the government for 7 billion dollars for
carrying out 9/11 and for racketeering. And he joins us now. During the
break, I first really did the big interview with Stanley Hilton after I
saw him attacked on Fox News. And that interview got massive attention.
And then he kind of went underground for a while because a judge, we're
going to talk about that, ordered him to not do any more interviews. And
now he's back doing interviews. He's had his office broken into, FBI
threats and harassment. Bottom line, he has deposed military
individuals, wives of hijackers, you name it, it was a government
operation. It has even come out in mainstream news, a piece here, a
piece there. They had drills on 9/11, that's why NORAD stood down.
Cheney was in control of the whole thing. Stanley Hilton has now gotten
documents about how Bush ordered the whole operation. And I'll tell you
right now, his life is in danger, folks. And he's got so much courage.
He went to school with these neocons at the University of Chicago. He
wrote his thesis on how the government could use terrorist attacks to
set up martial law. He is the man for the time and folks wondered why he
disappeared for a while and just did his lawsuit and wasn't doing
interviews, it was because he was ordered to. Stanley, can you get into
that for us?
- SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March
of 2003, about a year and a half ago, and literally two weeks after
that, I was contacted by the emissary of the chief judge of the federal
court where I have the lawsuit. And I was warned not to publicize it but
to keep it quiet and threatened with discipline. And it remained quiet
until a couple of months ago and then I got on the air on some programs
and some publicity and July 1st, I was threatened directly by the chief
judge here, threatened with court discipline. This particular judge has
been circulating communiqués to the other federal judges seeking
anything negative she can get against me to try and discipline me after
I've been on the court here for 30 years with no disciplinary problems
at all. This is suddenly happening. And her assistants who are on the
committee of the court met with me on July 1st in Palo Alto, California,
and threatened me directly. They handed me a copy of the lawsuit and
said that the judge wants me to dismiss this. What's this? She doesn't
like the content of it. This is politically incorrect. This is outside
the norm. I said I represented more than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going
to dismiss this case? And they threatened me directly and they said,
"the next time you'll be disciplined." And also they've threatened me
not to go public, etc. And this is just outrageous.
- AJ: It's all color of law. No direct orders, just all
in your face.
- SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny
it's because of the political content of the suit but they told me
directly on the phone that it is because of this suit and this judge is
very, very angry, apparently has been in contact with Ashcroft's Justice
Department. I got a call from Ashcroft's Justice Department a few months
ago about this, demanding that I drop the suit, threatening sanctions
and all kinds of things. I refused to drop it. AJ: Now let's go back
over, you had them break into your office, harassment. Let's go over
that in detail.
- SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The
file cabinets - it was obvious they had been rifled through. Files were
stolen. Files dealing with this particular case and particularly with
the documents I had regarding the fact that the - some of these
hijackers, at least some of them were on the payroll of the U.S.
government as undercover FBI, CIA, double agents. They are spying on
Arab groups in the U.S. And, in effect, all this led up to the effect
that al Qaeda is a creation of the George Bush administration,
basically. That the entity that he called al Qaeda is directly linked to
George Bush. And all this stuff was stolen. Fortunately, I had copies.
But this was just part of the harassment. The FBI has also been
harassing some of my assistants and has planted a spy in our midst. And
it is just outrageous that these Nazi tactics are being used - and the
obstruction of justice, these people are criminals. And that's what's
happening under the tremendous pressure here to just drop it. Or to shut
up now and just go away.
- AJ: Now, let's talk about what they want you to drop.
Let's talk about, without giving names, the people you deposed, what
really happened, the picture you've got. You said earlier that Bush
ordered this, they were simulating this which they now admit there were
simulations on that morning. Let's go over what they don't want you to
talk about, Stanley.
- SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as
witness sworn statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI
informants, etc., that other officials in the Pentagon and the military
and the Air Force that deal with the fact that there were many drills,
many rehearsals for 9/11 before it happened. Bush had seen this
simulated on TV many times. He blurted this out at a press conference in
California a few months after 9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen the
first plane hit the first building on the video. And that's not possible
because there was no official video of that. There was one of the second
plane not the first one. He had seen the first one. We do have some
incriminating documents that Bush personally ordered 9/11 events. It was
well planned. A FEMA official has admitted on tape that he was there the
night before - September 10th, that is
- AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the
911 Commission, admitted that - Tripod II. They had their whole command
post already moved out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very important.
This is a key area of this whole event. You said months before it came
out on the CIA's own website and the Associated Press, you said I
deposed people. They said there were drills that morning and exactly
what happened, happening - that was the smoke-screen for the stand-down.
And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA comes out and said yeah we were
running a drill that morning. Now, we've learned that five, possibly
six, were confirmed. Five of these - one drill with the exact same thing
happening that actually happened, at the exact same time in the morning.
That's why NORAD stood down with 24 different blips on the screen.
You've said this. You brought this up first. Now, I know you can't get
too much into detail but can you tell us how you learned of this?
- SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the
Air Force. I personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time that
I worked for Dole. I'm very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne
Mountain at Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that work in
NORAD as well as the Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the
point is, yes, this was not just five drills but at least 35 drills over
at least two months before September 11th. Everything was planned, the
- AJ: But five drills that day.
- SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a
drill. That's the only explanation for why he appeared nonchalant
- AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air
traffic controllers going, "Is this part of the exercise? Is this a
- SH: Yes.
- AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it
was, quote, a drill.
- SH: That's right. That's exactly what I said long
before it became public. I've known about this since earlier in March of
'03, as I stated before. This was all planned. This was a
government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He
personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass
murder. And now, obstruction of justice by attempting to use a federal
judge and FBI agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit in this
country, in federal court. Even a chief judge in this court tried to
harass and threaten me personally for representing legitimate
plaintiffs. And they got Clinton for allegedly lying under oath about
Paula Jones and now - look what's happening now. And Ken Starr used to
be across from me in Duke Law School in the early `70s and it´s
interesting that he got away with trying to get Clinton impeached, so we
have a far worse criminal sitting in the oval office today - somebody
guilty of mass murder as well as obstruction of justice.
- AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a
plan to fly planes into buildings - said it all over television - Rice,
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And then we find out they were running
all these drills that morning. Even if they weren't involved, that
proves they were liars about ever hearing of such a plan.
- SH: Well, I'm trying to take their depositions - I've
been trying to take their depositions for months. They've been trying to
object to it. They will have to admit they were either lying then or
now. It's clearly perjury either way. They are liars and perjurers;
that's what they are. These are the people that we have running this
government and, of course, they knew about it. How are they going to
claim now that they didn't know about these drills? Their idea is that
nobody knew anything. It's the old know-nothing mentality. And how
anybody considers this believable is beyond me.
- AJ: All right, now people ask how could a huge
organization, how could the AWACs, how could the military let this
happen; whereas before, if your Cessna got off course for five minutes,
they would launch F-16s on you. It's real simple. It's what Stanley
Hilton said here a year and a half ago. It's what came out in the news
after that. The military, good people, were told this was all a drill.
And it was not a drill. And ABC News admits that Cheney was in control
of [?] out of the White House [?] and that he ordered the military to
quote "do something." Our inside sources from Hilton and others say it
was a stand down and they admit they will not release that under
national security. Stanley?
- SH: Well they are going to admit it, they're going to
release it in the court case because if you demand it under subpoena
powers and they must release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in
the name of the U.S. because under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act],
we accuse the Bush Administration of presenting a fraudulent claim to
Congress. And under the statutes of Title 31 of the U.S. code, they must
release this information. That's why they are trying to threaten me,
harass me, invade my office, steal my files, commit blatant obstruction
of justice and other crimes to try and prevent a legitimate civil suit
from exposing these criminals and their acts of treason and mass
- AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you
are not planning suicide. Would you like to tell folks that?
- SH: (laughs) I'm not planning suicide. I've got family
and I'm not planning that but I don't like the threats I'm under - but I
can tell you this, it's taking a toll emotionally on me and my staff.
And particularly, when you get a threat from the chief judge of your own
- AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a
year of being under the radar? SH: Because the more and more evidence
that I've been adducing over a year and a half has made it so obvious to
me that this was now without any doubt a government operation and that
it amounts to the biggest act of treason and mass murder in American
history. I mean George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot.
He makes Benedict Arnold look like George Washington. I mean that's what
we have - a criminal and a traitor sitting in the White House pretending
he's a patriot, wrapping himself in the flag. And it's pretty disgusting
because the other side of the so-called opposition, the Kerry camp is
just saying nothing because they're afraid to speak.
- AJ: Stay right there. We'll be right back.
- AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or
16 minutes. Then he's got to go into court. Bob Dole's former chief of
staff, political scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs -
most of them victims of 9/11. When I was in New York last week,
everybody I was talking to, I mean 90 plus percent of them at ground
zero - "I had family, I worked in the buildings, my son's a Navy Seal -
he called the night before and said don't go to work." You know, all of
this, and then now they never had any idea - and it turns out they had
all these drills - and one drill of hijacked jets flying into the World
Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. That morning - come on
people! And Stanley Hilton brought all this out on this show before it
was in the mainstream news. And I was talking to him during the break. I
mean, the harassment, the moles, the threatening of his staff, the judge
threatening him. Stanley, let's get specifically into the documents that
you have now got that they have now been robbing you for, that you
luckily, thank God had copies. Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you
get into that for us - ordering 9/11? SH: National Security Council
classified documents which [garbled] and it's was part of a series of
documents that were involved with the drill documents. This was all
planned - they had it on videotape. These planes were controlled by
remote control, as I stated previously a year and a half ago, there's a
system called Cyclops. There is a computer chip in the nose of the plane
and it enables the ground control, the military ground control, to
disable the pilot's control of the plane and to control it and to fly it
directly into those towers. That's what happened. It's also a technology
used on what's called the Global Hawk, which is an aircraft drone - a
remote- controlled aircraft. And they were doing it. We are talking
about National Security Council classified documents that clearly
indicated that [garbled] had a green light to order this to go and this
is no drill. These drills that were running were clearly a dress
rehearsal and this was a government operation. You wonder why these
people are trying to threaten people and trying to intimidate people who
have written this suit, I guess if you murdered 3000 of your own
citizens, in conjunction with the corrupt Royal family of Saudi Arabia
as Bush did. And if you then waste billions more on a worthless garbage
war in Iraq, I guess you've got something to worry about and you want to
threaten people to prevent it from coming out.
- AJ: I mean let's look at this. Not only are there
dress rehearsals, they are smoke screens so the good military stands
down and doesn't know what's happening. But it's now coming out, even in
mainstream news, that yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of
these drills, quote, passenger-type jets were under remote control -
this is decades old technology. In 1958, NORAD was [ ] old jets and
using them for target practice. Decades ago they flew jumbo jets from LA
to Sidney Australia. So since that's going on, everybody knows that. And
it's the same MO. Just like the first World Trade Center [bombing] where
they get two retarded men who followed this blind sheik who had a tiny
mosque above a pizza parlor. And they set them up as the patsies. Then
the FBI cooks the bomb, trains the drivers. This informant goes, "You're
not going to bomb the building? They go "Yeah, we're letting it go
forward." He tapes them to protect themselves. The two retarded
gentlemen, thank God, didn't park it up against the column, as the FBI
instructed them to do, so it didn't bring down the tower - because you
have to be right up against the column. That doesn't happen. Yet, it's
the same thing with 9/11. You've got these CIA agents, these Arabs, who
were trained at U.S. military bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station -
mainstream media, out creating their legends for this background.
They're on board the aircraft. My military sources say nerve gas kills
everybody on board the plane - nerve gas packets. Then they fly the
planes into buildings. From your inside sources, is that
- SH: It's one of the things that we are looking into -
that nerve gas or something else disabled people. It's possible. I can't
say for sure to be honest with you
- AJ: All you know is they were government agents and
they were on board and the planes were remote controlled.
- SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the
events of the hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a
plant. It was like a classic decoy. I've got some military background.
And it's called decoy. It's a decoy operation. You make the people focus
on the decoy to avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are
focusing on these so-called nineteen hijackers and saying, "Oh, it must
have been these Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty person is at 1600
Pennsylvania Avenue - sitting in the oval office. That's the guilty
person. That's the one who authorized it. There is only one man who
could have authorized this operation and that's Bush. And anyone at
NORAD will tell you as I have been told personally at NORAD in the war
control room, there is only one man who has the power to do this kind of
thing and that's Bush. Even though many believe he's a puppet. And I
think in many ways he is. The fact of the matter is where was [ ]
Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors. The fact is Bush personally
ordered and he's guilty and liable and he's going to be re-elected
apparently because the media's asleep and [garbled] for Bush. AJ: Well,
the media is owned by the same military industrial complex that carried
out the attacks.
- SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining
the official government fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These
Arabs couldn't even steer that plane down a runway.
- AJ: Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up.
- AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents,
when you talk to these military men and women, what's their attitude?
They've got to be pretty freaked out to have the big picture and know
what actually happened on 9/11.
- SH: Yes, you know it's like clouds just before a
thunderstorm in the sense that they are sort of pregnant with rage. They
are just enraged at the criminal politicians who have perverted and
misused the government to murder its own citizens and pursue these
dubious political ends. And many of them, in increasing numbers, are
willing to talk and will talk under subpoena - but only under subpoena
because the official party line of the government is shut up and don't
talk to the trial lawyer. But more and more, they are very outraged that
part of the government has done this to its own people, to its own
people. I mean you have to go back to Stalin to see something - not even
Hitler did this to his own people. You have to look at Stalin who
murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his own dubious gains. Also we've
got - we have a Stalinist mentality in this country. And, if these
people pose as patriots and wrap themselves in the flag, it's
disgusting. I wanted also to point out that the Japanese television
network, Asahi, is going to be airing a special on primetime tomorrow,
on September 11th. They interviewed me for eight hours a couple of weeks
ago. I'll be on that. I wish - of course, the America media don't care
so they are not going to care. But in Japan, people are very serious in
interviewing me and others. And we have a website now, called
deprogram.info, if more people are interested: www.deprogram.info. But
the other thing, I just wanted to say that if anything happens to me -
and I don't know why - because I'm being threatened here now. And it
seems you can't bring a case in this country anymore against criminals
in power without being threatened. And this is how they operate. The
stakes are pretty high when you've got a world historical level of
treason and fraud by this government against it's own people. I guess
this is what you have to expect.
- AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the new world order
crowd, definitely intend to carry out more terror attacks. I know they
would have carried out more attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've
been up to, if you wouldn't have been out there boldly speaking out and
many others. And then their electronic Berlin wall has a bunch of cracks
in it now. Thanks to good people like yourself and many others who are
speaking out and telling the truth. But do you think that they may carry
out what they've been hyping - a suitcase nuke attack, a biological
release to try to smokescreen all of this? I know it's a catch 22,
you've got to expose the murderers. We've got to get the word out on
this but some government people that I've talk to say, "Yeah, but if you
do that, they are going to go even more hard core and must totally try
to take over." But I say regardless, they are already doing that. So
what do you say to that?
- SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have
contingency plans. I think they are laying low now because there are an
increasing number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging
them and accusing them of criminal conduct. I think they would have done
it again if we had not spoken up. I think they're planning, what they
would like to do is silence any dissenters. That's why we are trying to
get the Patriot Act declared unconstitutional in this lawsuit
- AJ: Let's talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot
is a scarce man, hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds,
the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You
are one of those guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively
jumped on the hand grenade for America. But when you've got a Zogby
poll, who is highly respected, half of New Yorkers believe that the
government was involved. When you have a Canadian poll, 63% on average
believe that the U.S. government was involved. And some groups, as high
as 76% in polls believe the government was involved. European polls,
two- thirds show the same thing. We have German defense ministers and
technology ministers and another member of their government now, three
of them going public, known conservatives, and progressives. You have an
environment minister, Michael Meacher, saying that if they didn't do it,
they sure as hell knew what was going on. Look, if anybody who is a
thinking person looks at the evidence, their official story is
impossible. Then you investigate and they are involved in it. Comments
to this massive awakening and what's happening.
- SH: Well, I think that's why they want the Patriot Act
to suppress political dissent. They have to, they're anticipating, they
are not dumb individuals. I know these people personally, Wolfowitz.
These are criminal individuals but they are smart and so they
anticipated political dissent. And that's why, like the Nazis, their
forebears, and their blood brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists,
they're all for political repression. Every corrupt and criminal
government has done this - they suppress their own people: Nazi Germany,
Communist Russia, Mao Tse-Tung, that's why we have the Patriot Act. So
it's hand in hand. They had it planned to go right up to September 11th,
this was all part of the plan. You have to do it. It was part of my
senior thesis. You must follow through the terrorists attacks with a
political suppression mechanism in the law. And that's why they want
Patriot I and Patriot II and their plans are to continue launching more
terrorist attacks to justify even more repression. The goal is to make
this a one party dictatorship in this country, to pursue their dubious
ends with their blood brothers like the Saudi Royal family. And also,
historical blood brothers, such as the Nazi Germany and the Communist
Russian. That's the goal
- AJ: You've got to go in just a minute or two. But I
wanted to also tell you about New York. Sound cannons that are used in
Iraq, they're against us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000 police,
accredited media being arrested randomly. Children being arrested,
people in wheelchairs, 2000 plus people put in a camp with barbwire
fences inside with no bathrooms. You had to have permission to go to the
porta-potties. Police screaming at you. It had nothing to do with
terrorism. They are openly setting the precedent for martial law.
- SH: Well, that's right, the word terrorist is now
being overly broad and overly defined [garbled] and also, you know, it's
like the word communist was used for anything during the McCarthy witch
hunt. And anybody can be called a terrorist by Bush's definition. But
the irony is that the number one terrorist in the world is living at the
White House at the oval office today. That's the real irony. For sheer
hypocrisy, I think he deserves the world prize and ought to be in the
Ripley book, Believe It or Not, and the Guinness book of world records
for sheer brazen chicanery and fraud.
- AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is
the experience that I had. Watching television, watching the killers,
watching those that are guilty, stand up there as our saviors is
incredibly painful. It's like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his
own trial. I mean it is just painful to know who these people are. To
see them putting America in a shredder. Now we are going to have forced
psychological testing of every American, forced drugging, you know
Pan-American unions, I mean it's just all happening, it's in our face,
- SH: Yeah, it's very disturbing and as one who has
studied the theory and concept of dictatorships, I personally
interviewed Albert Speer, who was Hitler's armaments minister. I
interviewed him in 1981 in Munich. And I've studied the psychology and
history of totalitarianism and there is no question that it's very
frightening. And it has, today, with high technology, albeit for the
first time in history, the chance of having a world empire dominated by
corrupt, technologically oriented government - an elite government. And
they've got now what people like Napoleon and Hitler didn't have, which
is the technological means to dominate not only their own country but
others - the world.
- AJ: The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to
show how PNAC [Project for the New American Century] said we need
helpful Pearl Harbor events, to show how Northwoods called for the exact
9/11-style attacks, to show their own plans. And to force people to face
this horror. What are they going to do in a year or two when 80% of us,
not half of us, know the truth?
- SH: Well, that's why they want repression and, then
again, the ancient old diversion, launch another terrorist attack to get
people to pitch it away. I mean who knows what they'll do next. I mean
their capacity for ingenious creation of these events is sort of
unraveled. I mean there is no limit. My guess is they are going to try
another stunt - maybe a stunt just before the election to justify
getting Bush reelected. Although it seems like he is running against a
straw man or a ghost right now, anyway. But, my guess is they'll try
some other tactic to get people's attention away from 9/11 if it gets to
be too much attention. What you really want is for the public to just
lose interest because the public - and it's like remember the Alamo, you
know, people don't forget things like that. To me it's like the Alamo,
remember 9/11, that ought to be the slogan for this outrageous act of
treason. That's what it is. It's not
- AJ: We are at a crossroads, I don't think they
anticipated this much resistance, Stanley.
- SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as
incompetent as they are corrupt and guilty. That means their
incompetence is exceeded only by their corruption and their guilt. And
eventually, if enough people are going to get outraged enough, these
people in the bureaucracy and in the civil service and our military, and
eventually we can get people under subpoena these individuals will be
- AJ: Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being
naïve and not recognizing evil. This is what they got with Hitler and
others. People couldn't recognize evil so they continued to repeat
succumbing to it. We are recognizing it this time. We are putting our
lives, our treasure, our future on the line for freedom because we
cannot let these blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture us and
use us and turn us into the empire and have a draft and use us as their
slaves to invade the planet. And that's their PNAC plan. Stanley Hilton,
I know you've got to get to court. God bless you. I want to thank you
for being here with us today. Can we get you back on next week?
- SH: Sure, just give me a call.
- AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing
- SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought
to just think about the consequence of having someone like Bush in the
White House and the danger for the future that these sorts of
individuals pose. This is not just a historical event of the past. This
is part of the plan and the camera is still rolling. They have an
agenda. These individuals are extremely dangerous. They are armed and
dangerous. They pose a clear and dangerous threat to every
freedom-loving person not only American but in the whole world.
- AJ: You are absolutely right Stanley Hilton. They have
captured the government. They have not captured the peoples' minds and
they are counting on us not facing up to it.
- SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot
Act and threats and chief judges and FBI agents threatening people who
are exposing them. That's what they are counting on.
- AJ: But you're not backing down are you, my
- SH: No, I'm not
- AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God
- SH: All right. Thank you.
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