EricTheRed
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09/20/03 07:10 PM
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THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ Post 895110
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Synopsis: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF
THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION |
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Source: WRMEA |
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Published: March 3,
2003 Author: Thomas R. Stauffer |
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For Education and Discussion
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The Costs to American
Taxpayers of the
Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3
Trillion.
June 2003,
pages 20-23. Special Report. By Thomas R. Stauffer
Conflicts in the Middle East have been very costly to
the U.S., as well as to the rest of the world. An estimate of
the total cost to the U.S. alone of instability and conflict
in the region - which emanates from the core,
Israeli-Palestinian conflict - amounts to close to $3
trillion, measured in 2002 dollars. This is an amount almost
four times greater than the cost of the Vietnam war, also
reckoned in 2002 dollars.
Even this figure
underestimates the costs because certain classes of
expenditure remain unquantified. In particular, no reliable
figure is available for the costs of "Project Independence,"
Washington's lavishly promoted effort to reduce U.S.
dependence on oil from the Middle East. That effort, which was
subverted early on by diverse local special interests, was
designed primarily to insulate Israel from any new "Arab oil
weapon" after 1973/74, and may easily have cost $1 trillion.
Even though the outlays were rationalized in the interest of
"national security," however, they contributed little or
nothing to reducing U.S. strategic dependence upon imported
oil from the Middle East. Similarly, aid to Israel - and thus
the regional total - also is understated, since much is
outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit
in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion,
including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or
aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial
outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs
each year.
The major components in this minimum
estimate of the costs are summarized in Table One;
| Table One: Summary Overview of Cost of
Mideast Conflicts to US Since WW2 (in 2002 dollars or
jobs per year) |
| Type of Cost |
Events |
2002 Costs |
| Political or Military Crises |
Conflicts in 1967, 1973, 1978-87, 1990 and
construction of Strategic Petroleum Reserve |
$ 1,516 Billion |
| Economic and Military Aid |
Total Regional (budgeted) - Near East, Greece,
Turkey and periphery |
$ 867 Billion |
| Ad Hoc support for Israel |
Trade preferences, loan guarantees, privileged
contracts and technology access |
$ 56+ Billion |
| Lost Trade and Domestic Jobs |
Effects of sanctions and blocked contracts |
275,000 Jobs |
| Energy Autarky |
"Project Independence" |
Indeterminant |
| Identifiable Programs within "Project
Independence" |
$ 285 Billion |
| "Defense" of Gulf Oil Supplies |
Presence and preparedness in the Gulf (since mid
1980s) |
$ 40+ Billion |
| Contingent Cost |
Oil Supply Guarantee for Israel (1975 MOU) |
$ 3
Billion/Month |
A
detailed breakdown is displayed in Table Two:
| Table Two: Detailed Breakdown of Cost of
Mideast Conflicts to US Since WW2 (in 2002 dollars or
jobs per year) |
| Type of Cost |
Events |
Subtotals |
Totals |
| Political or Military Crises |
|
|
$ 1,220-1520 Billion |
|
1956 War |
Minimal |
|
|
1967 War |
$ 40+ Billion |
|
|
1973 War |
$ 750-1050 Billion |
|
|
GDP Loss |
$ 300-600 Billion |
|
|
Import Price Impact |
$ 450+ Billion |
|
|
1978 Iranian Revolution and Iran-Iraq War |
$ 350 Billion |
|
|
1990-91 Gulf War |
$ 80 Billion |
|
| Economic and Military Aid |
|
|
$ 867 Billion |
|
Total Regional (budgeted) |
$ 808 Billion |
|
|
Israel |
$ 247 Billion |
|
|
Egypt |
$ 139 Billion |
|
|
Turkey |
$ 159 Billion |
|
|
Greece |
$ 125 Billion |
|
|
Jordan |
$ 25 Billion |
|
|
Other Regional |
$ 110 Billion |
|
|
West Bank and Gaza |
$ 1 Billion |
|
|
Peacekeeping |
$ 2 Billion |
|
| Ad Hoc support for Israel |
|
|
$ 56+ Billion |
|
Preferential Contracting |
$ 40 Billion (est) |
|
|
Discounted Arms Sales |
Not traced |
|
|
Israel's SPR (1975 MOU) |
$ 3 Billion |
|
|
Loan Guarantees |
$ 10 Billion |
|
|
Oil Supply Guarantee |
Up to $ 3 Billion/Month |
|
|
Support for Lavi and other projects |
$ 3 Billion |
|
| Budgeted Aid - Periphery |
|
|
$ 32 Billion |
|
Sudan |
$ 2 Billion |
|
|
Ethiopia and Eritrea |
$ 12 Billion |
|
|
Caucus and Central Asia |
$ 6 Billion |
|
|
Somalia |
$ 2 Billion |
|
|
Other SW Asia |
$ 10 Billion |
|
| Private US Aid to Israel |
|
|
$ 40-50 Billion |
| US Share of Multilateral Aid |
|
|
$ 10 Billion |
|
Turkey |
$ 7 Billion |
|
|
UNRWA |
$ 3 Billion |
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| Lost Trade and Domestic Jobs |
|
|
275,000 Jobs/Year |
|
Embargoes and Sanctions |
100,000 Jobs/Year |
|
|
Trade Aid Imbalance: Israel |
125,000 Jobs/Year |
|
|
Blocked Trade Opportunities |
650,000 man-years |
|
|
GMMR |
50,000 man-years |
|
|
"Yamamah Project" |
600,000 man-years |
|
|
Known Investment Losses |
$ 10 Billion |
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| Energy Autarky |
|
|
$ 381 Billion (min) |
|
Strategic Petroleum Reserve |
$ 146 Billion |
|
|
"Project Independence" |
$ 235 Billion (min) |
|
|
Gasohol |
$ 25 Billion |
|
|
Estimated State Subsides |
$ 100 Billion |
|
|
Unconventional Gas |
$ 20 Billion (est) |
|
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Unconventional Energy |
Not Traced |
|
|
Other Federal Subsidies |
$ 90 Billion |
|
| "Defense" of Gulf Oil Supplies |
|
|
$ 40+ Billion |
|
Presence and preparedness in the Gulf |
$ 40+ Billion |
|
| Estimated Total (minimum) |
|
|
$ 2,600-2,900
Billion |
Total
identifiable costs come to almost $3 trillion. About 60
percent, well over half, of those costs - about $1.7 trillion
- arose from the U.S. defense of Israel, where most of that
amount has been incurred since 1973 (see later section and
Table Three).
| Table Three: Summary Overview of Cost to
US of Support for Israel Since WW2 (in 2002 dollars or
jobs per year) |
| Direct |
|
$ 1,854 Billion |
|
Official Foreign Aid |
$ 247 Billion |
|
Rescue Costs (1973) |
$ 1,050 Billion |
|
Collateral Costs |
$ 451 Billion |
|
Special, ad hoc support |
$ 106 Billion |
| Trade and Job losses |
|
275,000 Jobs/Year |
| Linked |
|
$ 324 Billion (minimum) |
|
Aid to Periphery (NIS etc) |
$ 49+ Billion |
|
Energy Autarky |
$ 235 Billion (minimum) |
|
"Defense" of Gulf |
$ 40 Billion |
| Contingent |
|
|
|
Oil Supply Guarantee (not yet implemented) |
$ 3
Billion/Month |
Oil Crises
The largest single
element in the costs has been the series of six oil-supply
crises since the end of World War II. To date these have cost
the U.S. $1.5 trillion (again in 2002 dollars), excluding the
additional costs incurred since 2001 during the build-up
toward the second war with Iraq. Until 1991, each crisis was
triggered by a conflict among two or more Middle Eastern
states, usually with the active involvement of at least one
extra-regional power. The nature and impact of the oil crises
changed over time, becoming more serious and implying greater
risk to the oil-consuming world.
The several earlier
Mideast oil crises, in 1956 and 1967, actually had relatively
little effect on the United States. Indeed, the U.S. profited
from exporting surplus oil in 1956 when Mideast supplies -
especially of "sterling oil" - were interrupted. The second
such crisis, in 1967, did have a longer-term impact.
Initially, only the cost of shipping was raised when the
Israelis interdicted the Suez Canal. The splitting of oil
markets between east and west of Suez, however, was the
catalyst for an overall price increase which otherwise would
have been unlikely, if not impossible. Several OPEC states
were successful in exploiting the closure of the Suez Canal to
increase oil prices across the board after 1968. Again, the
effect on the U.S. was relatively small, because U.S. oil
imports were still at a low level. Nonetheless, those
increases between 1970 and 1973 did cost the U.S. some $40
billion (in 2002 dollars).
The period before 1973,
therefore, had little effect on U.S. oil costs, and the burden
of aid to Israel was modest, so the overall cost of Middle
East conflicts remained modest. The major cost prior to 1973,
in fact, was support for Turkey as part of Cold War operations
to contain the Soviet Union.
This changed with 1973,
and costs escalated rapidly thereafter. Starting with the
Arab-Israeli war of 1973, the costs to the U.S. of regional
crises and aid programs began to increase beyond any original
expectations. Since 1973, protection of Israel and subsidies
to countries willing to sign peace treaties with Israel, such
as Egypt and Jordan, has been the prime driver of U.S. outlays
or the trigger for crisis costs. The 1973 war proved to be
dear. At a minimum, it cost the U.S. between $750 billion and
$1 trillion. This was the price tag for the rescue of Israel
when President Richard Nixon agreed to resupply Israel with
U.S. arms as it was losing the war against its neighbors.
Washington's intervention triggered the Arab oil embargo which
cost the U.S. doubly: first, due to the oil shortfall, the US
lost about $300 billion to $600 billion in GDP; and, second,
the U.S. was saddled with another $450 billion in higher oil
import costs.
A third factor added to the oil-related
cost of the 1973 war (over and above the multi-billion dollar
aid package to Israel which began in that year). Deciding to
act preventively, as it were, the U.S. created, after some
travail, a Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) designed to
insulate Israel and the U.S. against the wielding of a future
Arab "oil weapon." It was destined to contain one billion
barrels of oil which could be released in the event of a
supply crisis. To date the SPR, which still exists and is
slowly being expanded, has cost $134 billion, since much of
the oil was bought at high prices, and because the salvage
value is relatively low. Thus, the 1973 oil crisis, all in
all, cost the U.S. economy no less than $900 billion, and
probably as much as $1,200 billion. Ironically, military costs
themselves were negligible. The 1973 war illustrated the new
dimension of Middle East conflicts, where the burdens are
economic rather than military.
The next regional oil
crisis was relatively less dear, although costly nonetheless.
The Iranian revolution and the subsequent Iran-Iraq war cost
the U.S. $335 billion in terms of higher oil import prices.
There were two stages. First, 5 million barrels per day (b/d)
of Iranian oil exports were suspended when the revolutionaries
closed the oil terminals in 1978. The resulting shortfall in
oil supply, compounded by speculators, doubled oil prices.
Then, just two years later, in 1980, began the Iran-Iraq war,
which interrupted oil exports from both warring countries,
causing prices to more than double once again. The joint
effect of the two crises cost the U.S. consumer $335 billion
in terms of higher prices for imported oil. It also caused a
rise in prices of domestic energy oil, gas, and coal. These
"knock-on" effects are not included, however, so that the
figure of $335 billion is indeed a lower bound for the actual
costs of those two, back-to-back crises. The total consumer
cost is likely to have been more than double that figure.
The 1990/91 Gulf war, on the other hand, proved to be
almost a bargain. It did cost American consumers approximately
$80 billion in higher oil prices, including both imported and
domestic oil, again excluding the resulting "knock-on"
effects. The military costs of conducting the war itself were
all but nil, however, because virtually all the other costs
were passed on to Washington's willing or reluctant allies
through "burden-sharing." The Germans, Japanese, and some Gulf
states contributed cash and kind to the pursuit of the war,
with the result that the net military cost to the U.S. was
essentially zero. Officially reported "burden-sharing"
contributions amounted to $45 billion, compared to officially
reported U.S. military costs of $49 billion. Given the
inherent imprecision in the budgeted figures, the net effect
was a wash. In fact, the U.S. government actually showed a
fiscal profit from the crisis, because it collected at least
an additional $10 billion in taxes and royalties from the
higher prices of domestically produced oil and gas.
Economic and Military Aid
This category includes only those amounts which flow
through the conventional foreign aid appropriations process.
Ad hoc and special aid is discussed later. The total for the
Middle East is $867 billion, which includes the official "Near
East" category, plus Greece and Turkey, which are classified
as part of Europe for purposes of U.S. statistics. Greece is
included because the Greek lobby has ensured that Greece
receives roughly 70 percent as much aid as Turkey as a
condition for acquiescing in the appropriations for Turkey.
Thus the outlays for Greece are necessary conditions for the
outlays for Turkey, given the U.S. domestic political dynamic,
and thus are causally linked to the Middle East.
The
official reports are incomplete. First, it is necessary to
estimate the ad hoc and special aid for Israel, which is
reported differently, if at all (see below). Secondly, it is
necessary to include such special, but related, transactions
as U.S. support for insurgents in the Sudan, or the U.S. share
in multilateral aid to Turkey, in order to flesh out the full
picture. "Humanitarian aid" to the revolutionaries in the
southern Sudan has aggregated to some $2 billion, while the
U.S. share of recent multilateral aid to Turkey from the IMF
and World Bank can be estimated at $7 billion. It can be
argued that this money was made available to Ankara as a
result of U.S. pressure, intended to reward Turkey further for
its alliance with Israel and as an incentive for further
cooperation against Iraq.
Increasingly, aid to the
periphery is part of U.S. involvement in the Middle East.
Ethiopia, Somalia and Eritrea are viewed as integral to
geopolitical planning for the Middle East, and, more recently,
aid to the Central Asian "emergent democracies" is linked in
part to Middle East politics, related to efforts to encircle
and isolate Iran. That increasing flow of aid is also part of
the larger picture of aid to the Middle East.
Another
element is ad hoc support for Israel, which is not part of the
formal foreign aid programs. No comprehensive compilation of
U.S. support for Israel has been publicly released. Additional
known items include loan guarantees - which the U.S. most
probably will be forced to cover - special contracts for
Israeli firms, legal and illegal transfers of marketable U.S.
military technology, de facto exemption from U.S. trade
protection provisions, and discounted sales or free transfers
of "surplus" U.S. military equipment. An unquantifiable
element is the trade and other aid given to Romania and Russia
to facilitate Jewish migration to Israel; this has accumulated
to many billions of dollars. Lastly, unofficial aid, in the
form of transfers from the Diaspora resident in the U.S. and
net purchases by U.S. parties of Israel Bonds, adds at least
$40 billion to the total. A rough estimate, again a minimum,
for such additional elements is more than $100 billion since
1973.
U.S. jobs and exports also have been affected,
adding to costs and losses. "Trade followed the flag" in the
area - but in the reverse direction. As U.S. relations with
Mideast countries deteriorated, trade was lost. Worsening
political relations resulted in the loss of hundreds of
thousands of U.S. jobs. Some disappeared as a consequence of
trade sanctions, some because large contracts were forefeited,
thanks to the Israel lobby - as in the case of foregone sales
of fighters to Saudi Arabia in the 1980s - and still others
due to a dangerously growing trade-aid imbalance vis-à-vis
Israel.
Sanctions alone have caused U.S. jobs to
disappear. The trickle of U.S. trade with Iran, Iraq, Libya
and Syria - compared to what would have been expected had
relations been "normal," let alone "good" - currently costs
the U.S. some 80,000 to 100,000 jobs each year. The figure is
probably higher, in fact, because it does not reflect the lost
opportunities for U.S. farmers to export their products into
the growing markets of the sanctioned countries.
"Good" relations, however, do not necessarily mean
employment gains for Americans. In the case of Israel, the
striking trade-aid imbalance vis-à-vis Israel costs the U.S.
almost as many jobs as the sanction regimes. Israel exports to
the U.S. much more than it imports, while it pays for only a
fraction of what it does import from the U.S. Specifically,
Israel buys little from the U.S. in relation to U.S. aid
levels, and the trade-aid imbalance of $6 billion to $10
billion each year costs about 125,000 jobs. One aspect of U.S.
government policy in the region, however, does create American
jobs: the states of the southern Gulf incrementally buy large
quantities of U.S. arms and related services. That
relationship, primarily with Saudi Arabia, has translated into
an extra 60,000 jobs in recent years. This gain, due to the
special status of Saudi Arabia, partly offsets the jobs lost
through Israeli pressures or contracting policies.
Another large element in cost has been the push for
energy autarky - specifically, "Project Independence." This
clutch of programs has been extraordinarily costly since it
was initiated as a policy objective in the 1970s. Oil imports
are higher today than before, in spite of the imposing array
of subsidies or forced technologies designed to increase U.S.
energy production and cut consumption. No overview of these
costs has been compiled. Identifiable costs come to $285
billion, but the grand total is certainly very much higher. A
reasonable estimate is at least one trillion dollars, but only
part of that can be documented. While the subsidies were
inevitably justified in the interests of national security,
the projects and programs were in most cases captured and
co-opted by domestic lobbies. Since the national objective was
reducing dependence upon Mideast oil, however, the costs
should be subsumed within the costs of coping with regional
conflicts, even if the programs were largely ineffectual.
"Defense" of the Gulf - often cited as a major cost
factor - in fact has been but a minor element of cost.
Excluding the buildup for war against Iraq in late 2002, the
official figure for operations and presence in the Gulf is
about $30 billion to $40 billion per year. That figure is
misleading, however. Most of the equipment and troops and the
operations of the carrier task force at Diego Garcia would be
maintained in support of other geopolitical objectives, so
those outlays, which represent the largest component in the
reported "cost," are not substantively tied to U.S. policies
in the Gulf itself. The U.S. presence itself has entailed
relatively modest incremental costs - on the order of $2
billion (net) per year, exclusive of any new costs tied to the
new mobilization against Iraq.
Lastly, a large part of
the costs have been inextricably tied to U.S. protection of or
support for Israel. It is therefore useful to pull together
the various elements linked to that policy:
Direct
costs, excluding crisis costs, have amounted to about $800
billion. This figure includes budgeted U.S. aid for Egypt and
Jordan, since that flow of aid is so closely correlated with
their postures toward Israel - i.e., that aid is part of the
cost of buying peace for Israel on two of its borders. It also
includes the flow of dollars from private Jews or Jewish
organizations in the U.S. to Israel, which are drains on the
U.S. balance of payments, analogous to official aid transfers.
The rescue of Israel in 1973 cost another $1 trillion, so
total direct costs, including the costs of the results of
support for Israel, are some $1.8 trillion.
There have
been further costs where the causal linkage is less clear -
aid to the states of the periphery (Ethiopia, Central Asia,
etc.), the "defense" of the Gulf, and the costs of Energy
Independence. Although some part of those costs of $300-plus
billion are attributable to U.S. support for Israel at the
core, any allocation is beyond the scope of this discussion.
A last element is a contingent cost: the cost to the
U.S. of the Oil Supply Guarantee which Secretary of State
Henry Kissinger proffered the Israelis in 1975. If Israel's
oil supply is affected, Israel in effect gets a first call on
any oil available to the U.S. The opportunity cost of that oil
depends upon the crisis scenario's plausible scenario would
entail costs to the U.S. of $3 billion per month in terms of
lost GDP if the U.S. were embargoed at the same time.
Expensive Unrest
Unrest in the Middle East has proven to be very
expensive for the U.S. It is known that most of American
foreign aid goes to Egypt and Israel, but it is clear that the
total costs to the U.S. of conflict in the region are very
much higher than the aid bill itself. The total costs of
supporting Israel are some six times the official aid, for
example. Oil price crises have been particularly expensive - a
sobering lesson from the history of the Middle East over the
last 30 years. Future "burden-sharing" is unlikely - while
successful in eliminating much of the cost of the 1990/91 Gulf
war, it will become much more difficult. Mercenary allies,
such as Turkey, moreover, are likely to demand compensation
"up front," since, they argue, they never received the aid
promised to them during the prior Gulf war. Ankara is
especially likely to demand considerable rewards, since it
protests that it received little to offset the $30 billion it
claimed it lost in the last affair.
Israel, too, is
demanding more aid - $4 billion in extra military support and
a further $10 bn in loan guarantees, over and above the
current level of appropriated aid. Conflicts in the Middle
East have become expensive indeed for the American taxpayer.
It is worth noting, however, that the burden shared by
the other oil-consuming states has, in fact, been much higher.
Even though they do not share in policy formation, they do
indeed share in the costs of the consequences. While not
greatly drained by foreign aid to the region - unlike the $800
billion borne by the U.S. - they bear much more of the costs
of oil crises because, collectively, they import much more oil
than the U.S. Thus the total bill - the total burden shared by
default - is two to four times higher than that for the U.S.
alone. All states - not just the U.S. - have borne the burden
of conflicts in the Middle East.
Thomas R. Stauffer is
a Washington, DC-based engineer and economist who has taught
the economics of energy and the Middle East at Harvard
University and Georgetown University's School of Foreign
Service.
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/june2003/0306020.html
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EricTheRed
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09/21/03 03:35 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 896851,
reply to 895110
] (Score: 2, Underrated) |
Damn, the rabidly anti-Jewish Liberty
forum has absolutely no interest in this article on the outrageous
cost of the "shitty little country".
How can this be.... all
those holocaust denial threads.... all those anti-Jewish
comments.... all a hoax????
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bonzo
(extremist)
09/21/03 03:38 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION  [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 896855,
reply to 896851
] (Score: -1) |
cost of the "shitty little country"
------
Belgium is an ally. The fact that they have been assimilated by
the UN is unimportant, but shitty?
Thanks for proving
the poof-nazi, Ruby Ridge Waco link to LF.
Pawns, dimwits and simpletons oh my.....
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bonzo
(extremist)
09/21/03 03:43 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 896861,
reply to 896851
] (Score: -1) |
I would agree that America should not be involved in
the Arab Israeli conflict.
We should also take guns away
from waco-Christian identity types.
Pawns, dimwits and simpletons oh my.....
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Buckeroo
(extremist)
09/21/03 03:49 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 896868,
reply to 895110
] (Score: -1) |
Nice try, pal. Thomas R. Stauffer has a vested
interest in stirring the pot. His interests are not mere spread
sheet analysis but to support government intervention upon your
individual dignity.
He may be "high" in government circles
.... I would just flush this shit down the toilet, if I could.
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BlackVeil
(insurgent)
09/21/03 04:25 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 896912,
reply to 896851
] (Score: 2) |
Liberty forum has absolutely no interest in this
article
The problem, maybe, is that the article is too
difficult to read. It has some link or something distorting it, it
is too wide for the screen. When I see articles like that I just
skip them.
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:37 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075453,
reply to 895110
] (Score: -1) |
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weikel
(revolutionary)
12/01/03 06:39 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075456,
reply to 1075453
] (Score: -1, Flamebait) |
" We cannot be tricked with diversity."-Al
Sharpton
Edited by Mr_Nuke_Buzzcut on
12/01/03 07:40 PM.
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:44 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075474,
reply to 895110
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angel2000, angle, Angler, annalex, AnnaZ, another1, ansar, Anthem,
antinoam, antiwar, Apprentice, Arator, arcane, Archaeus, Archimedes,
Argos, Arimus, aristeides, artbishop, askel5, asneditor
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EricTheRed
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12/01/03 06:44 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075475,
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Flag to: asteve, Astoria, Aurelius, AwShucks,
Axle, aynfan, A_Bert, A_Vast_R_W_Consp, babaloo, Babylon, Bairck,
Barak, Baron_Stein, BeachBum, BearBottoms, beast, Benighted,
beowolf, bettyford, bidness, BlackAgnes, BlackJade
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:44 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075477,
reply to 895110
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Flag to: BlondGermanNight, bluegrass,
Bohemianguy, Bolero, bonzo, boston_liberty, Boxsford, Boyd,
Brownie74, Buckeroo, Buckeroo1, Carbon, Carry_Okie, Catamount, CATO,
Centinel, Cent_Scrutiniser, chookter, Chris, ciceros_son
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:44 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075479,
reply to 895110
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Flag to: Cobra_Commander, Comet_Sense,
ComicRelief, commag, Constitutionist, coolkid827492, Credence,
CrimsonArchon, cruster, CubicleGuy, CWI, cyte, Daisy11, dakota,
DamageInc, damian, Dan99, DAnconia55, Dano, DanteSuave
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:45 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075482,
reply to 895110
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Flag to: dcwusmc, Dead_Corpse, Debator,
Decepticon, DefenderOfTruth, Delta_9, demidog, DesertFox,
Desertgirl, DeZionizer, diotima, DirtyHarry, djarum, DocLady,
Donuel, Don_Wallgren, Down_South, drandrewm, DreamWeaver
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:45 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075484,
reply to 895110
] (Score: -1) |
Flag to: drsmartassphd, DrVincent,
dsylexics_untie, D_Joyce, Earth_AD, eauclaireliberal, EBUCK,
EchoCharlie, Edana, EdmundBurke, Eir, Eisig, Elf, Ellis_Wyatt,
embryotronical, enemyofthestate, enforcer, Entelechy, Eric
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:45 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075485,
reply to 895110
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Flag to: EveningStar, Excalibur,
ExiledInTaiwan, farmfriend, FerricWebcaesar, Fletch, flimflam,
foadi, fod, francisandbeans, Franco, Fred25, freedom444, freeeee,
freefly, freeman23, FreeTally, FREE_ZUNDEL_NOW, ganesha
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:45 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075487,
reply to 895110
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Flag to: Gern, Gilgamesh, givemeliberty,
GiveUpOrDie, gjenkins, Global_Elite_Rep, Gloryroad, gnarledmaw,
Gott, GovernmentMule, graybeard, grep14w, GreyLmist, GROUCHOTWO,
guenon68, Gustav_Vasa, Hacom, HaftSin, Hagen, hamzat
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:45 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075488,
reply to 895110
] (Score: -1) |
Flag to: Hard_Case, Haroun, Harry_Callahan,
henrykissinger, HenryofNavarre, Heretic, historian1944,
Hoosier_Patriot, hoplophile, HueyN, Hyperfederalist, ibelieve26,
Iceberg, IFTLtd, ignition, innocence, intoodeep
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:46 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075489,
reply to 895110
] (Score: -1) |
Flag to: irtorqued, isabel_k, itinerantcynic,
Itisalmosttolate, ixeman, I_Owe_Zero, Jac, Jack_Barbara, JamesBond,
janmarie, jasowas, Jassy, jaye, Jefferson_Adams, Jethro_Tull,
jjbrouwer, jo6pac, JoeDirt, joeschmuck
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:46 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075491,
reply to 895110
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Flag to: John Deere, JohnGalt, JohnHuang,
John_Farson, Jombur, Jonas, joned, JRadcliffe, jss, Judson,
jumpinjackflash, justanumba, JustStopIt, JWPegler, KDD, Kenneth,
KentuckyWoman, Killer_Bob, kilroyscousin, KingKangaroo
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:46 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075494,
reply to 895110
] (Score: -1) |
Flag to: Klucker, Knightmixer, Kosciusko, ksen,
Kudzu, kulak, Kurt, kUSS, Kyle_Gridley, Kyra_Ayn, laconas, LaDonna,
LaRouchein2004, laser, LawrenceofArabia, LeWolf, Le_Roy,
LIBERTARIAN_JOE, LiberteeBell, libertymls
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:46 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075495,
reply to 895110
] (Score: -1) |
Flag to: libertysocialist, LibertyTeeth,
LifeForceLiberty, lightningrod, Lise, loner, Loopy, Lorianne,
LSJohn, MadameAxe, madrussian, Magician, malador, Malarski,
MarcusAurelius, Mark_Twain, MarshalLucky, maryamkaywhy
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:46 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075496,
reply to 895110
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Flag to: max61, maxbluto, MayflowerMusa,
Medieval, medusa, MegaTruth, Mercuria, Methushelah, Michael_Collins,
mindprism, mingus64, MizSterious, mlo, monkey, Moose, MrSpock,
Mr_MJS_2U2, Mr_Nuke_Buzzcut, mudcat, Muslim, Nachtwolf
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:47 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075497,
reply to 895110
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Flag to: Nanette, natibrau, NC_Libertarian,
NeoNietzsche, NewAmsterdam, NewFork, NewsWatcher, NewYorkStorm,
nimblebunny, NittanyLion, NMC_EXP, NOT_A_BUSHBOT, nunya_bidness,
NWOKiller, OBERHAMER, Oberon, ObjetD_art, odyssey
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:47 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075498,
reply to 895110
] (Score: -1) |
Flag to: Okiereddust, OMalley, OneChopStick,
onenatt, oph, ouroboros, OWK, PaleoCon, PaleoconAvatar, PaloVerde,
pariahville, Patriot, Patriot1789, Peacedove, penacite, perle,
PersistentVision, Perspi, Pete, PeteAtomic
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EricTheRed
(radical)
12/01/03 06:47 PM
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Re: THE COSTS TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS OF THE ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN
CONFLICT: $3 TRILLION [ To: EricTheRed |
Post 1075499,
reply to 895110
] (Score: -1) |
Flag to: Phoenix, Pistias, Pitiricus, plummz,
PnbC, Polichinello, poly, Prevail, Prodigy_Boy, ProjectHatfill,
proudpatriot, Publius, Radicalgranny, ragin1, Randal, randge,
Ratatoskr, ratcat, RCW2001, RDavis84, REC, redrock
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