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Date: Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: Tesla: An evaluation: We should thank God his technology didn't happen!

Hi John and Eileen,
As one who also considers himself a scientist and "technically experienced person" (I'm sure you'll agree John) and one who has read the two main biographies of Tesla and now into an autobiography and as one who has studied Tesla's 1903 patent for what he termed a radiant energy receiver (radiant energy = zero point energy in today's parlance), I feel I need to "weigh in" on this thread.  Without using Tesla's inventions, neither of you could have sent or received this e-mail!
  • If you have a DSL connection to your ISP, you're using what most phone guys call radio - a high frequency multiplexing technique to send data over UTP (unshielded twisted pair) that were only ever designed to carry about 3 KHz of voice frequency energy.  Tesla INVENTED radio.  I know you probably think that Marconi did, but the US Supreme Court settled the matter and declared Tesla the inventor. Marconi was a thief and a poser.
  • Unless your house/office is "totally off the grid,"  your computer is powered by polyphase alternating current.  Invented by Tesla - the Father of High Voltage polyphase AC generation and distribution.
  •  If you have an AC fan or other motors in your house (refrigerator, dish washer, washing machine, furnace motor, etc.) that motor was originally invented by Tesla.
  • The generators at the power stations (first one at Niagara Falls)?  Invented by Tesla.
  • fluorescent lights?  Tesla
  • remote control?  Tesla
  • bladeless turbine? Tesla
  • VTOL aircraft?  Tesla
  • helped pioneer x-ray technology
  • inventors of LASER stood on his shoulders
  • foresaw television, fax, encryption

Money does not represent such a value as men have placed upon it. All my money has been invested into experiments with which I have made new discoveries enabling mankind to have a little easier life. - Professor Nikola Tesla

WRT the Tesla Electric Car.  It was NOT, repeat NOT powered by the "magnifying transmitter" that Tesla was trying to finish at Wardenclyffe (Long Island).  Because of double cross by ONE man - not "the man" - Tesla could never finish it.  More on that below.

It WAS powered by ZPE - Zero Point Energy.

A few decades or so ago, another genius, MMY, declared that in the future we would power our cars from "particles in the air."  Tesla's own words:

Philadelphia Public Ledger November 2, 1933 Tesla 'Harnesses' Cosmic Energy

Inventor announces discovery to displace fuel in driving machinery. Calls Sun main source. A principle by which power for driving machinery of the world may be developed from the cosmic energy which operates the universe, has been discovered by Nikola Tesla, noted physicist and inventor of scientific devices, he announced today. This principle, which taps a source of power described as "everywhere present in unlimited quantities" and which may be transmitted by wire or wireless from central plants to any part of the globe, will eliminate the need of coal, oil, gas or any other of the common fuels, he said. Dr. Tesla in a statement today at his hotel indicated the time was not far distant when the principle would be ready for practical commercial development. Asked whether the sudden introduction of his principle would upset the present economic system, Dr. Tesla replied, "It is badly upset already." He added that now as never before was the time ripe for the development of new resources. While in its present form, the theory calls for the development of energy in central plants requiring vast machinery. Dr. Tesla said he might be able to work out a plan for its use by individuals. The central source of cosmic energy for the earth is the Sun, Dr. Tesla said, but "night will not interrupt the flow of new power supply."


Brooklyn Eagle July 10, 1932 Nikola Tesla states:

I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device. Cosmic ray investigation is a subject that is very close to me. I was the first to discover these rays and I naturally feel toward them as I would toward my own flesh and blood. I have advanced a theory of the cosmic rays and at every step of my investigations I have found it completely justified. The attractive features of the cosmic rays is their constancy. They shower down on us throughout the whole 24 hours, and if a plant is developed to use their power it will not require devices for storing energy as would be necessary with devices using wind, tide or sunlight. All of my investigations seem to point to the conclusion that they are small particles, each carrying so small a charge that we are justified in calling them neutrons. They move with great velocity, exceeding that of light. More than 25 years ago I began my efforts to harness the cosmic rays and I can now state that I have succeeded in operating a motive device by means of them. I will tell you in the most general way, the cosmic ray ionizes the air, setting free many charged ions and electrons. These charges are captured in a condenser which is made to discharge through the circuit of the motor. I have hopes of building my motor on a large scale, but circumstances have not been favorable to carrying out my plan.

  • Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. This idea is not novel. Men have been led to it long ago by instinct or reason; it has been expressed in many ways, and in many places, in the history of old and new. We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who derives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians and in many hints and statements of thinkers of the present time. Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic? If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic — and this we know it is, for certain — then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature.
    • "Experiments With Alternate Currents Of High Potential And High Frequency" (February 1892)
Tesla was describing what is now known as Zero Point Energy - ZPE.  This is the energy that keeps hydrogen from freezing - even at absolute zero.  It IS or accounts for the "bubbling of space time foam."  There is enough energy (ZPE) in one cubic centimeter of empty space to vaporize all the oceans of our world in an instant.  Look at where nuclear energy is on the Plank scale and then look at the absolute zero end of the Plank scale.

Although there is no known proof - other than the statements of Tesla's nephew and others (it was reported in the papers at the time) - I'm convinced that Tesla did power a converted Pierce Arrow (ICE out and electric motor in) with ZPE.  Why would this breakthrough be suppressed?  Think about all the ICE (internal combustion engines) and oil wells, and oil refineries, and service stations already in existence in 1930.  Enlightened self interest or vile conspiracy?  You be the judge.

Segueing from "The Man" to THE man - JP Morgan - from above.  To the day he died, if I recall correctly, Tesla trusted JP Morgan and thought him to be a great philanthropist and benefactor of mankind.  Morgan promised Tesla $50,000 to build his Wardenclyffe "tower" the "magnifying transmitter" depicted in drawings in this original thread - an enormous sum of money for the time.  Morgan wanted it so that he could send private messages over the Atlantic - for financial info and yacht racing reports.  When Tesla let it slip that in addition to that capability (and many more - fax, phone, encrypted private messages, television, radio) that his "tower" would also be able to transmit power to any point on the earth or sea, Morgan shut him down and wouldn't give him another penny - no matter how much Tesla begged him, and despite the fact that Tesla had given Morgan 51% - controlling interest - in MANY of his most successful patents.

Morgan had holdings in copper mines in Utah and Alaska and in rubber plantations - both necessary for the power cables to carry Tesla's AC power from the power plants (like Niagara) to homes and businesses - through a meter, or course.  Enlightened self interest?  If you're a student of the "Federal" "Reserve" "System" (aka The Banksters) then you know that JP Morgan was instrumental in helping create that "Creature from Jekyll Island" and that he was the main architect of the "Panic of 1907" that caused the outcry for a national bank (just as he and his comrades knew it would.)  This lead directly to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.  Same year as the income tax.  (Conspiracy or coincidence?)  Same year as the 17th amendment - direct election of senators - with the exception of the "civil" war, the greatest single blow to states' rights ever struck.  (Conspiracy or coincidence?)

WRT EMF from Tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower:
As I understand it, this tower would use a relatively small amount of locally generated power to stimulate the ionization caused by the cosmic "rays" - the ZPE - a "magnifying transmitter" to send power and communications to any/every point on earth.  Tesla imagined many of these towers all over the world - at specific locations.  He claimed that he could light up the very air over shipping lanes on the oceans at night!  The tower had more below it than was visible from above ground.  Tesla had an enormous grounding system with a deep well with iron pipe and radials of more iron pipe bored into the ground horizontally - radiating from the central well.  He planned to flood the well with salt water.

As soon as it is completed, it will be possible for a business man in New York to dictate instructions, and have them instantly appear in type at his office in London or elsewhere. He will be able to call up, from his desk, and talk to any telephone subscriber on the globe, without any change whatever in the existing equipment. An inexpensive instrument, not bigger than a watch, will enable its bearer to hear anywhere, on sea or land, music or song, the speech of a political leader, the address of an eminent man of science, or the sermon of an eloquent clergyman, delivered in some other place, however distant. In the same manner any picture, character, drawing, or print can be transferred from one to another place. Millions of such instruments can be operated from but one plant of this kind. More important than all of this, however, will be the transmission of power, without wires, which will be shown on a scale large enough to carry conviction.
  • On the Wardenclyffe Tower, in "The Future of the Wireless Art" in Wireless Telegraphy and Telephony (1908)
The power which Tesla appeared to be able to transmit can NOT be viewed as regular electricity in my opinion.  It seems more like "cold electricity" - a very different beast - possibly based on ions rather than electrons.  Would it generate harmful EMF?  Who knows?  What we know for certain is that the huge megavolt powerlines coming from coal fired power plants today do generate incredible levels of EMF, and we put microwave transmitters next to our brains, and irradiate our food with them.  Could this be any worse?  Could it be much better?  Tesla used to pass high voltage electricity through his body - claiming that it cleansed him and kept him free of disease.  Working near his Tesla coils, he naturally breathed a LOT of ozone.

It is obvious that Tesla didn't succeed in his time to bring many of these discoveries to fruition.  And as John wrote, maybe that's a good thing, because of the level of consciousness of the masses at the time.  What horrors would the "Evil Doers" - The Destroyers - have unleashed on mankind if they had this technology - far more powerful than nuclear energy?  Drawings of the Wardenclyffe Tower depicted it powering aerial vehicles with "death rays" shooting down planes and sinking ships of an invader.  True Star Wars technology - which some conspiracists say that the Men In Black confiscated from Tesla when he died.  Just as we get the government we collectively deserve, so too do we get the science and technology, art, music, medicine, health care, education, food, architecture, environment. . . . .  We weren't ready for what Tesla could give us.  Maybe now we are?  Soon? 

It makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck to tell you all that with the Internet, collaborative/"open source" work on Tesla and many other forms of alternative energy is going on around the world around the clock.  24 X 7.  AMAZING things are beginning to happen.  We just need a few more inches and the giant ball we have been pushing up a long tall incline will crest the top and start down the other side - heralding the dawn of Satya Yuga.  What a great time to be alive!

I'll let Tesla have the last words on his place in the greater scheme of things:

The scientific man does not aim at an immediate result. He does not expect that his advanced ideas will be readily taken up. His work is like that of the planter — for the future. His duty is to lay the foundation for those who are to come, and point the way. He lives and labors and hopes.
"Radio Power Will Revolutionize the World" in Modern Mechanics and Inventions (July 1934)

Let the future tell the truth and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine. On patent controversies regarding the invention of Radio and other things, as quoted in "A Visit to Nikola Tesla" by Dragislav L. Petković in Politika (April 1927); as quoted in Tesla, Master of Lightning (1999) by Margaret Cheney, Robert Uth, and Jim Glenn,

though it has really nothing to do with any of the foregoing, it's nice to see that manufacturers of this very cool electric roadster have honored Tesla in naming their company:

Peace, Prosperity, Liberty and Love

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Eileen Dannemann wrote:

John:  Thanks for the evaluation on Tesla.
  I had that very impulse about the mass EMF via the Tesla technology. (email 1930 Pierce Arrow Electric Car)  And you are right.  Even if Tesla was on an inventive track that would eventually lead to another realization as the dangers of mass electrical pollution was recognized, like the atom bomb, science would have most likely diverted via the only funding source, to the government for defense (and as per population control theorist to use against mankind). 

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From: John Huff
Date: Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: Tesla's "1930 Pierce Arrow" Electric Automobile
To: Eileen Dannemann

Hello Eileen and whoever is listening, 

As a scientist, designer, and technically experienced person, I am as in awe of Tesla as anyone. 
He was one of the most advanced technical geniuses of the last century. 
However, he was not perfect, and there is a glaring inconsistency in the logic of many alternative or environmentally aware people who now praise him (as in this story). Misunderstanding Tesla is somehow in vogue.  

There are many (unconfirmed) stories about his power transmission ideas, and whether he pulled them off or not.  These are circulated as gossip today, mostly by technically uneducated people and conspiracy-theory types who paint him as a savior who was beaten down by "the man." 
The truth is, there are many conspiracies going on in the world, and all anyone has to do is look in plain sight to see them everywhere.  But Tesla's power transmission idea (such as in the car article) was A REALLY BAD IDEA, and he was not the victim of a conspiracy (in this narrow regard anyway).    

His plan was this; generate enormous amounts of electrical energy, them pump it into the atmosphere and/or earth, and then tune in to it at a distance to run any electrical device.  Well, anyone with a rudimentary understanding of electricity and a hint of conscious awareness can immediately see just how bad an idea this is.  I will explain, since most people do not understand electricity.  

Environmentally aware people agree that electromagnetic pollution, or EMF's and the like, are bad. Specifically, these are magnetic fields generated by electricity flowing thru wires (or the Earth).  And no one, even unconscious people, want microwaves beaming thru them.  But Tesla's core idea for power transmission was to avoid the wires, and send this power, well, everywhere. So instead of EMF's radiating from wires, they would be flowing thru the air, and the Earth, everywhere, along with radio and microwaves, on a huge scale.   EMF's would not merely be a small (yet bad) by-product, with most of the power flowing thru wires;  ALL power transmission would be - pure EMF's!!!   If you even vaguely understand what this would mean, your mind should now properly be reeling from the disasterous consequences this would bring. I will refrain from elaborating.  

If this were possible on a practical, commercial scale (it is probably not), and society had implemented that plan, we would have EMF problems literally thousands of times worse than we now have. In fact, this is a classic example of a true, sincere scientific genius, who unfortunately never considered the health or environmental impact of what his idea would do to life on the planet.  This is not an example of a good lone genius trying to do right for the planet or for society, who was squelched by "the man."    This is an example of the kinds of problems that we are now all fighting.  In fact, I am surprised that the ignorant businessmen now in charge of most everything are not actually trying to implement this very bad idea.  If the idea was possible, they would probably not suppress it, they would bankroll it, to our detriment.   So praise Tesla if you like for his many good ideas.  But this car, and this method of moving power around, would have been like the genetic engineering or DDT or whatever of its day.  Very fortunately, it never got implemented.  

So the writer has this exactly backwards.  We were not somehow denied free power.   In addition to praising a bad idea, the article displays a remarkable ignorance of the subject overall.  It is filled with inaccuracies and unfounded gossip.  Even if the idea had worked, it never would have been free.  In fact, due to inefficiencies it would have cost MORE. Most of the rest of the article consists of non-sequiturs and illogical statements. 

When a technically knowledgeable person who might be on the fence about environmental policy reads an article like the one here, it makes them lose respect for the whole idea.  They get turned off, and do not want to listen to others who are sincere & educated enough to be speaking about some specific political/environmental topic. So please, New Age conspiracy theorists, before you write about a topic, check with a couple of experts to see if you understand what you are talking about.  And readers, be aware that there are enough problems right in your face that you can fix, without wasting time looking for conspiracies in the past in areas that you do not understand.  


On Aug 22, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Eileen Dannemann wrote:

This is very educational, if you don't know the few details on Nikola Tesla's 1930 Electric Car  (suppressed) Eileen

Tesla's "1930 Pierce Arrow" Electric Automoblie
(that could have been powered by the tower seen below.)

Tesla's "1930 Pierce Arrow" Electric Automoblie

(that could have been powered by the tower seen below.)

Nikola Tesla reading a newspaper in his Colorado Springs Lab. • 1908

Tesla Motors of 2006 runs on a electric motor with a rack of batteries.
Nik's Car was Wireless Dude!
No need for downtime recharging it. Return to
Telsa Company like back in 1930. Wireless free radiant energy!

Nikola Tesla had an Electric Pierce Arrow back in 1930, the ICE engine was replaced with an Electric Motor. The power source was a black box of radio tubes, in the glove compartment. The box had an antenna sticking out. Tesla would fool with some tuners and tune in the right frequency and got 240 volts delivered through the air to his car. The car ran almost silent. He had the car stashed in a barn near Niguera Falls. He was sending the energy from the Power Plant, some how. He said this power could be made possible for everyone. J.P.Morgan did not like the idea, because where do you put the meter? Morgan stopped funding and Tesla's Wardencliffe Tower was taken down. We were denied FREE power. Now we pay for gas & SMOG.

Here is the story : In 1930, Nikola Tesla asked his nephew, Petar Savo, who was born in Yugoslavia in 1899, to come to New York. Petar was 43 years younger than his uncle. Up to that date he had lived under stringent conditions in Yugoslavia, Tesla's country of birth. During the summer of 1931, Tesla took his nephew to Buffalo to unveil and test a new automobile. Tesla had developed it with his own personal funds.

It was a Pierce Arrow, one of the luxury cars of the period. The engine had been removed, leaving the clutch, gearbox and transmission to the rear wheels undisturbed. The gasoline engine had been replaced with a round, completely enclosed electric motor of approximately 1m in length and 65cm in diameter, with a cooling fan in front. Reputedly, it has no distributor. Tesla was not willing to say who had manufactured the engine. It was possibly one of the divisions of Westinghouse.

The "energy receiver" (gravitational energy converter) had been built by Tesla himself. The dimensions of the converter housing were approximately 60 x 25 x 15cm. It was installed in front of the dashboard. Among other things, the converter contained 12 vacuum tubes, of which three were of the 70-L-7 type. A heavy antenna approximately 1.8 meters long, came out of the converter. This antenna apparently had the same function as that on the Moray converter (see chapter on Radiant Energy). Furthermore, two thick rods protruded approximately 10cm from the converter housing.

Tesla pushed them in saying "Now we have power." The motor achieved a maximum of 1800rpm. Tesla said it was fairly hot when operating, and therefore a cooling fan was required. For the rest, he said there was enough power in the converter to illuminate an entire house, besides running the car engine. The car was tested for a week, reaching a top speed of 90 miles per hour effortlessly. Its performance data were at least comparable to those of an automobile using gasoline. At a stop sign, a passerby remarked that there were no exhaust gasses coming from the exhaust pipe. Petar answered "We have no motor." The car was kept on a farm, perhaps 20 miles outside of Buffalo, not far from Niagara Falls.

A few months after this automobile test, and because of the economic crisis at the time, Pierce Arrow had to stop production. It is very likely that the interconnection between the electric motor and the transmission had been performed there. Pierce Arrow's tools were taken over by Studebaker, in South Bend. Not quite 30 years later, that company also vanished to form American Motors, jointly with Nash. Later, some of its fans attempted to resuscitate the Pierce Arrow. Unfortunately, they were not successful.

Thus, today that company's name is in a mausoleum, together with others, such as Horch, Maybach, Hispano-Suiza, Bugatti and Isotta Fraschini.


Eileen Dannemann
former director, National Coalition of Organized Women (NCOW)