Fredrick Töben comments:

1. We should welcome the Germans mounting a case that the Israeli Supreme Court dismissed – it all happened in 1988 when the Holocaust-Shoah believers also received a hiding from Ernst Zündel at his second Holocaust trial at Toronto – where Raul Hilberg had to confess that there were no written Hitler Orders that began the alleged extermination process. Up to 1988 Hilberg claimed there were two written Hitler Orders!

2.  It was Alan Dershowitz who then alerted the Holocaust-Shoah industry never again to have a survivor cross-examined in a court of law where truth-telling is important; and so all trials subsequently eliminated matters of fact and focused on matters of law.

3. Also, the 4 million figute on the 40 Auschwitz plaques disappeared, to return during the early 1990s with 1.-1.5 million on new plaques.

4. And the sensational Leuchter Report was submitted to court – Germar Rudolf improved on it with his Rudolf Report in 1993.

5. If the Germans go ahead, then the absurd claims made about what happened at Treblinka may them be revealed, unless German lawyers become super creative and devise another Nuremberg trial for Demjanjuk – wait and see –

6. Perhaps, if you have the time, have a look at:

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Hasn't this man been put through enough?  Now the Germans have to outdo the Israelis in hounding an elderly

man to his grave.


Germans To Put Ivan The Terrible On Deaths Trial

Extradition For Evil Guard

PROSECUTORS in Germany have taken the first steps to extradite the man known as Ivan the Terrible from the US.

They want 88-year-old John Demjanjuk to stand trial for his alleged wartime role herding prisoners into gas chambers in Poland.

Demjanjuk is said to have beaten, whipped and sliced off the breasts of naked victims as they ran to their deaths at the Treblinka camp, near Warsaw.

The Ukrainian was sentenced to death by an Israeli court in 1988 but freed after his conviction was overturned five years later.

Now Demjanjuk - second on a list of most-wanted Nazi war criminals - could face another trial in Germany.

Kurt Schrimm, Germany's chief Nazi prosecutor, said: "We believe he could be convicted by German criminal law."

The Ludwigsburg-based Central Office for the Investigation of Nazi Crimes, which Schrimm heads, is in the process of applying to Germany's federal court of justice to have Demjanjuk extraditated from the US.

Germany's highest criminal court will then decide if the case can be tried. According to Schrimm, the chances of German prosecutors succeeding in bringing Demjankuk to court are "good".

Schrimm said prosecutors could make use of an exception in German law.

Normally the justice system can only prosecute someone if the criminal is German or the crime was committed in the country.

But in this case, Schrimm said, "a large number of the victims came from Germany and Demjanjuk was acting on German orders".

If Demjankuk is brought to justice in Germany, it could have far-reaching consequences for the prosecution of other Nazi war criminals. Schrimm said: "There are many other people who, like Demjanjuk, don't come from Germany but who could be held accountable under German law."

Demjanjuk emigrated to the US in 1952.

He was deported to Israel in 1986 to face charges that he ran the gas chamber at Treblinka, where about a million Jews from the Warsaw ghetto were murdered.

Only 40 people survived Treblinka, which was destroyed in 1943 to be replaced by the more efficient death factory of Auschwitz, also in Poland.

The charges arose after five survivors testified Demjanjuk was the man in a photo of an SS guard known as Ivan the Terrible.